BaBy^KyO
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Post by BaBy^KyO on Mar 22, 2002 21:36:54 GMT 7
I heard u all like look down on Jurong Point paralist.....y?I don't think they are that lousy..maybe just a little lousy...
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EuroMarinos
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Post by EuroMarinos on Mar 22, 2002 22:08:35 GMT 7
I'm actually proud to say that I'm learnt my trade at Jurong Point. But the problem nowadays is that it seems that it's always only that few people dancing Para Para there, if you get what I mean. And worse still, it appears that out of this handful only a few are interested in improving. The rest are more interested in making a mockery out of Para Para. In terms of standard the JP guys would probably be very much behind the mainstream Paralists.
I'm not sure if I've been observing the JP scene for a while, but I think the mindset of the players there need to change... I've come across people who doesn't know a single song out of the arcade series, which isn't exactly an ideal thing. Of course I've got no say over what people want to think, but still, there shouldn't be talk of people looking down on you if you yourself don't make the consensus effort to improve. I mean, not to say that I'm boasting, but from a relative unknown guy at JP to someone whom much of the local community knows of, it sure takes some dedication and commitment, which I somehow don't see it happening there, and it kinda pains me.
As for the looking down part, I think it takes two hands to clap... if there is a genuine effort from the JP players to try to improve as much as they can, the level would be improved and there won't be so much of this looking-down thing happening. I also appeal to the mainstream Paralists... we are all part of this community - as much as we have our little niggling problems with one another, we should work together to make sure that this community grows bigger and better.
And as far as I'm concerned, honestly, I won't really give too much of a fuss whether people respect me or not. They can look down on me for all I care. But that is provided I've already done myself justice and feel that I've already done my best. Now, I think the JP scene would probably need a few more dedicated players whom the rest can look up to for guidance and assistance.
Just my two cents' worth.
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Post by PaRaLuKe on Mar 22, 2002 23:33:14 GMT 7
Hi Jennifer (is that your name I recall?), glad to see you post. I dunno abt others but I don't realli think I look down on anyone who tries to make an effort in dancing Para Para and taking pains to perfect / practice the routines correctly, be it Try Me, Ale Japan or even Just The Way To Love. I have also heard around saying that the general paralists around look down on the others I seriously don't think so - look, if they don't come along and improve as what KC said, come along and join us and learn together, miscommunications will occur - and I think that is what that's happening. Just wait for Junhao (Ryuko) to come in and express his cents' worth - he was not under the mainstream paralists till lately and I believe he can voice out his own opinions as well.
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Post by Ryuko_Kimura on Mar 23, 2002 1:02:41 GMT 7
Here i am..... Haha.....
Fr my experience, some of wad KC have sae are true like doesn't wanna improve on themselves. It is like they juz play for fun. Give u one example and that is my "home ground" woodland. They may have the correct hand movements but the stepping are totally wrong. They moved by kicking their legs to the front. Almost 90% of the plp do this. Even in yishun which is where i live.
They didnt change it until when some of them manage to qualify for the recent HDB machine competition. They make a fool of themselves, as they are the onli one dancing in this way. (And another guy which i dunnoe who). Fr that day onwards, they started to go to sembawang and train. Since then i havnt seen them, so no comments on how they have improved.
But the most irritating stat that makes mi quit fr there is becoz although they are not that gd, they like to challenge other plp. And they always target weak grps. Some of them are secretly training juz to compete with us, which is irritating to sae.
Juz a opinion Luke, these few para bash that u have organize have invited beri little plp or maybe none fr outside us. But fr my experience in those areas, if u organize a competiton and publish it juz like wad we did now, through mouth or wad ever, i can imagine a large number of participants and the same respond or maybe even bigger respond than the Simei competition. True...... An example: At first i tot NYC is going to organize a competition, so i tell some of them abt it. U noe wad. They started to publish it at a beri fast rate, incredibly fast, but once i sae it is onli a mass dance, not publishing involved at all. So u can c fr the reaction.
The rest is history, and the story is too long. So i will juz stop here. I tink maybe JP is oso the same as wad happen in the north, no one noes. Will someone look down on them, that have to depend on how each plp look at it.
Okie, that is all i have to sae. The rest if u all wanna noe i can tell u all some other.
Ryuko^_^ giving his 5 cents worth.
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Post by Kuku_Bird on Mar 23, 2002 9:24:43 GMT 7
well, can i voice my view???
when i first started dancing, i frequent JP. i see the people there are trying to improve...... but it seems like at that point of time, which is around november last year, they are only trying to perfect Dejavu.... i'm pround to say that i learnt Dejavu from them...... i do not look down on them..... although i do see some playing both freestyle and para para mode, i think that i can learn much from them. looking down on them does not make sense......
i do agree on what jun hao has said. people from woodlands and yishun doesn't dance para para at all. they are just scanning arrows. the difference between a competition and a mass dance is that competition can win u prizes whereas mass dance does not. they feel that they are lousy to be with the mainstream paralist. but even competition got 2 types. one is the machine type and the other is of course without machine. they would prefer machine type as they can dance songs like love again tonight, luv to me and all those ( these songs can also be found on Para Para dancing, korean version, where these machines are located in woodlands and yishun)...... they have tried dancing these common songs and they feel satisfied with it. but honestly, if we can get them to dance para para, i guess they can be one of us....
PS: i first started dancing para para, not freestyle.......
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BaBy^KyO
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Post by BaBy^KyO on Mar 23, 2002 17:26:45 GMT 7
oooooooooiccccccc, i juz wanna noe.....-_-; erm.....luke...me jessica..lolz~
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Post by PPF_FLaMe on Mar 23, 2002 20:16:35 GMT 7
i think jp para dancers are not as bad as what you all think.. you can ask CIP if u all wanna know more since they frequent JP.. in fact, they dance much more better than some who frequent MS.. but.. true that they do not accept their mistake.. there was once when i pointed out some mistakes that 1 of them made, they wouldn't hear it and insists that they are right.. afterall, i believe that many good para dancers came from jp.. am i right? for eg, diana.. ;D
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BaBy^KyO
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Post by BaBy^KyO on Mar 23, 2002 20:32:19 GMT 7
hmm...well , i was a Jp paralist too...but dunno why this yr i Almost stop paraing except for NYC and some other mass dances . Around last week when i went to JP to take a look , i found out that there was no ppl ..0 ppl playing para, why is this happening? Do any of you know?
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Post by TeD on Mar 24, 2002 9:04:00 GMT 7
I too was a JP paralist too~ It was because of some of my friends there who danced para that I developed a passion for it too. I now mostly frequent MS... so not so sure what is happening in jp's para scene... But I noticed a few people who use to para at jp frequenting ms now
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Post by PPF_FLaMe on Mar 24, 2002 9:48:18 GMT 7
kyo.. @wad day, time did you go?? they mostly hang out there ard evening.. many of them still studying mah.. so mayb they need to go home 1st then go down jp to play mah..
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BaBy^KyO
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Post by BaBy^KyO on Mar 24, 2002 13:45:22 GMT 7
i frequent JP alot at last yr...i was there too when they were learning deja vu....me short short one...lolz
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Post by Groupless on Mar 24, 2002 14:01:50 GMT 7
ahahaa JP paralist are not that bad...but to me...they can improve~ A few good paralist are from there...its quite good. (not me i laoya) but then i used to frequent JP b4 they put the 2nd mix there... that time there were a few good paralist...with good potential but with no ppl to guide them~ sad uh~
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EuroMarinos
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Post by EuroMarinos on Mar 24, 2002 19:44:38 GMT 7
As I said, I think the guys at JP can pick up fast - provided there are someone who's perhaps experienced enough and dedicated enough to give them a few pointers here and there. But what Flame said was true - some of them don't accept their mistakes... something like 'I don't even know you and you're telling me that I'm wrong - do you think you are very good?' kind of feeling.
IMHO I think there's no point to really insist who is better and who's not, cos it just makes for senseless and uselss arguments that serve no purpose. As far as I'm concerned, I'm more interested to help others improve, further polish my ability and stuffs like that? Competitions, challenges are not my purpose for dancing Para Para, just like it shouldn't be for everyone else.
And one thing which is very important to know... if you are unsure about certain steps, just ask! Nobody is going to eat you up for asking a question. That's perhaps one thing that I don't notice happening among the JP guys. On the other hand, if someone points out that some of the steps you danced was inaccurate, try to look at it at a more positive manner, rather than thinking that that whoever is trying to show off... I mean, if he/she is kind enough to let you know that a certain step is wrong, would showing off be the thing on his/her mind? As far as I'm concerned, I don't think so.
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Post by Ryuko_Kimura on Mar 25, 2002 0:38:18 GMT 7
But that have to depend on how the person who spot the mistake sae out. Some people would juz go to anybody, trying to spot their mistake and go on to sae " wrong! wrong! wrong!......" to any person. I find them beri rude to do these loh. At least to it in a proper manner mah, then the person would get so fed up after listen to the person who is trying to guide them.
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Post by EuroMarinos on Mar 25, 2002 19:17:06 GMT 7
To be absolutely honest, I haven't seen that happen before. Cos from what I have observed, nobody even bothers to give those comments.
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